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Using Retirement Funds to pay your Mortgage is just a bad idea Get a Loan Modification

So it doesnt matter if it is a $100,000 property or a $500,000 property the cost to the lender is $50,000 on the average nationally.

So the idea of the upside down scenario, you may see banks more willing to entertain a broader audience of loan modifications or a broader request of loan modifications based on the fact that they know that now, what we are calling toxic assets, not only exist on their balance sheets, but they want to do something to avoid the additional cost of foreclosing on the property, to avoid the additional impact on our economy nationally with all these foreclosures mounting. So a loan modification that may not be the best or most ideal candidate today, dont throw the option completely out of the window.

And to that point I would never tell a home owner to stop making their payments just to get a better loan modification, because as of today, this may not be the case two weeks or two months from now, but as of today, your servicer is not going to entertain a loan modification unless youre late in most cases. Heres the situation, though at first you may get mad at that and they get mad at me for it, but the reality of it is we have a real problem now with lots of people who are two, three, four months behind on their mortgages, this loan modification we are jumping in, we are getting attorneys involved and getting right in front of the asset managers or the attorneys for the servicers to get these foreclosure proceedings stopped.

Im absolutely certain that in the foreseeable future they are going to allow people that are not late yet to do these loan modifications, hold on, I said I would never tell a home owner to not make their mortgage payment to get a loan modification, the other thing I would never tell a homeowner to do, never ever, is to take money out of your 401K to pay their mortgage payment because you cant go forward.

There are other stops in place, if you dont make your mortgage payment because of hard times you are going to get a loan modification. I talked to a guy the other day that had a 23 year, huge 6 figure income, he lost his job, big huge firm here in the valley, he is probably listening to the show right now, this guy drained his entire 401K, I mean a huge one, just to make his mortgage payments.

And the average 401K participant, investor, does not understand the ramification of what that is, just because your company plan allows you to take a loan against your 401K doesnt mean it is the right thing to do. There are ramifications beyond our time and the scope of this discussion regarding that decision. Loan modification first, if you are taking money from a 401K to make a house payment you are not only inefficient in creating the velocity of money but you are costing yourself in penalties, taxes, and that is certainly something we can be forthright about talking with anyone who wants to call.

And in this case the poor guy used up every dime of his 401K because his lender told him NO, NO, NO, three separate times because he was not late, well he wasnt going to allow that to happen. Unfortunately knowing what he knows now he would have looked at it differently.

Loan Modification is not for someone who has no income at all, the investor, the servicer, the bank that holds your mortgagee is not willing to do a loan modification because you dont have the means to pay. Even if it is a modified loan, you still cant make the payment. Right in some cases where you have significant cash reserves, but I have not seen one of those done.

That wouldnt be the ideal candidate, describe a little bit about who should be doing this loan modification and I know we are getting close to a break but people need to know that this option exists. They are hearing all these different concepts in the news and they are hearing in the media the spin about Hank Paulson and what the treasury is doing, and hearing about this bailout package and what that represents, and now they are hearing that the money is not going to be used to buy back bad loans, and mortgages, bad assists. So what does that do to the underlying holder of that mortgage? The owner of that house?

It is pretty scary for the majority of them, the loan modification lenders are getting very aggressive when being approached with a lawsuit or being addressed by an attorney, receiving a subpoena in regard to a specific loan case. They are paying attention to that and those are the people who are going to be getting the best options at this time…

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Part 5 (Excerpt)

The Loss Mitigation Department at the Bank is not on your side

Welcome back once again my guest Brett Fallon, Brett is a regular guest on the show, he is a registered financial consultant with RG Capitol and AIG Financial Advisors Brett W Fallon welcome back to the show.

It is nice to have the financial advisors perspective on some of these things so many people dont have a financial advisor so for thousands and thousands of people listening right now you are their only option for that, financial advisory services are typically not for the masses but again you are here to help and your services are available to quite a number of people you actually work with fortune 500 companies is that correct?

Yes, I do a number of workshops for fortune 500 companies that are headquartered here around the valley, the idea is to help people create efficiency with all assets, understanding that their home and home mortgage is typically the largest asset that most Americans have and if you are not treating that with efficiency, the retirement accounts and investments accounts, and all the other stuff has to work in concert, so Im happy to weigh in with information and give you my viewpoints and my perspective.

We were talking just a few moments ago about utilizing an expert negotiator when trying to do a loan modification, people are getting mail from bogus service sources, we have already covered that, but from their servicers saying if you need help with your mortgage, help is here, give us a call. Im certainly not going to tell everyone in the world that they cant do their own loan modification because some people are qualified to negotiate on their own behalf, though in my opinion they will still be emotionally attached to it and if they hear something that sounds good, it may be enough for them to essentially bite at the offer which is exactly what the loss mitigation department wants you to do.

It goes back to the disinterested third party, that expert negotiator, negotiator being the key word in that phrase. One of the things we were talking about and I want to make sure that we address this especially in this segment, we are talking about loan modification of mortgages of people that have some financial constraints, some pressure whatever the source of pain is, for them knowing that this option exists to take an existing mortgage loan and modify it to their best or better interest, from what it currently is, so who should and who should not do a loan modification, lets start with that.

Ill tell you and lets start with people who shouldnt do a loan modification. Someone who thinks their interest rate is too high and owes more than the house is worth, feels that they are entitled to a loan modification, is not really a good enough reason or a hard enough hardship for those types of people unfortunately. This is essentially a handout that is being offered because of some of the malpractices, if you will, that were happening within the mortgage industry over the last several years.

With these big huge banks offering these products that were teaser loans, toxic mortgages, as we call them now. We certainly didnt call them that then when the consumer calls me up and says I want that 1% loan thats going to be my ticket. Unfortunately people took theses loans but what they didnt realize is that someday this loan with the ridiculously low interest was going to reset and their payment was going to quadruple and who on earth could have known that the economic times would be as bad as they are and they would have no option to get out of these loans.

So someone who simply finds themselves upside down on their home, owing more on the house than the actual value of the house, does not necessarily need to consider a loan modification. No they may not qualify on those merits alone in most cases.

I just want to make a point, I was reading an article in the wall Street Journal about this stuff and basically the gist of the article was that the average foreclosure on any property in the United States costs the lender $50, 000 from start to finish…

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Short Sale and Loan Modification; Make sure you Work with an Expert

Were just going to go ahead if we could and just jump right into the short sale information. Jeri, again thank you so much for taking the time to be with us. What is the name of your firm?

Our group is Dream Vesting Group and our brokerage is Keller Williams Arizona Realty.

So that is great, licensed agents with Keller Williams and I know the two of you and I know of your history and we will talk a little bit more about that, but you have been working together for awhile. You and I had a chance to speak about the short sales and your success rate, very, very impressive proven results always helps. So the natural first question for those that are listening today. What is a short sale exactly?

A short sale is a property sale where the bank or lender agrees to accept less than what is owed to them. So the bank is agreeing to take a loss on the sale of your property, and I like what you said earlier about not trusting a loan modification or a short sale to just anybody, you definitely dont want to be the guinea pig and you dont want to approach the bank yourself and ask them to please take a loss because you need to sell your home.

And that is one of the things that is funny nowadays. I know people have seen them pop up all over the town, the ugly yellow bill boards all over the place. Advertising on the radio about loan modifications and they have 100% success rate, all kinds of these different things. The same thing with short sales, you actually have a process and you have a lot of experience doing it, you know the ins and the outs and this isnt a part time job this is a fulltime job.

Absolutely is a fulltime more than fulltime job, the last three Sundays I have been on the phones with lenders when they are open, one of them has a call center in India. I have been on the phone from 10 oclock at night until Midnight and again at 6am with the same lender trying to stop foreclosure.

Well that is good that you have the time, Take the time to do that. I am sorry that you have to work that many hours but you know Kalyn, is it not true that the sooner we get through all of these short sales and loan modifications the better off were all going to be anyway right?

Absolutely, a lot of people ask, what does it take? Who should be considering a short sale? If youre late on your mortgage currently, if your mortgage has adjusted, if you can no longer afford your monthly payment, if you foresee yourself not being able to afford your monthly payments, any of these instances plus several more, you should definitely be sitting down with someone and talking about your options which would be most likely a short sale or loan modification.

Yes the last thing anyone wants, and I mean anyone, is a foreclosure, that is the last resort. Nobody wants a foreclosure; you dont want it on your record, you dont want to have to deal with that. Its a very public event, a foreclosure is, the banks dont want you to foreclose and that is probably why they are so willing to work with you would you say? Absolutely the banks dont want the home back no matter what they tell you.

Exactly and on the loan modification side people try on their own to do this and its true that people can actually do a loan modification on their own but there are so many pitfalls and its just not something you want to try on your own. Surely you dont want to try a short sale on your own. So Jeri let me ask you this, what are some of the main objections?

The main objection that we hear from most of our clients is the cost to them, they already cant afford the payment on their mortgage or they wouldnt be in that particular situation 9 times out of 10 and so they are concerned about cost. Most people have already resigned themselves to the fact that they are losing their home and they dont want to spend any more money on it.

The good news is in a short sale you dont have to spend anymore money, all of the costs are absorbed by the bank. They agree to lose more money basically, so there is no realtor fees and the majority of the time we can negotiate an as is contract so if there are repairs that need to be made they dont come to you and ask you to do it, its just factored into the cost. So its very effective for homeowners.

And again it keeps them from going into foreclosure. They get to stay in the house and they get to save whatever is left of their dignity, some people take it very pride fully as well. So Kalyn, the second most common objection is?

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What is a Short Sale? How to Negotiate to Stop Foreclosure.

Kalyn Roberts and Jeri league, welcome to the program. Jeri and Kalyn are short sale experts and have graciously decided to come to the program to discuss some of the short sale important things that people do need to know, and were going to get to all of this short sale information, but a couple of things important to mortgage interest rates. Today is a fantastic day in the mortgage rate world. Leslie and Staci at Velocity Financial were kind enough to put together a scenario for us so listen to this folks.

This is not the teaser, this is not the loss leader, this is the real deal as of today, a $417,000 loan amount, the interest rate is 4.875%, thats 4.875% that is below 5% obviously, the APR is 4.948% and that is for a no cash out loan, and that is a special rate and we have a certain allotment of loans that were allowed to do at that special rate. If youre interested in talking to a member of my staff or myself or anyone else about that program you would call. There are people there standing by to take your phone call.

Were a local licensed firm and one of the only 15% of the mortgage companies in the state of Arizona that is licensed to do FHA loans as well. Any mortgage related needs that you have were here to help but for the next hour were going to be talking about Short Sales.

Now over the last several months we have been talking about loan modifications on the show a lot, Velocity Financial was one of the first companies to work with a national network of attorneys, a 16 year old firm that were working with. They have done thousands of these loan modifications, and the loan modification industry in Arizona is for the most part unregulated, but you want to make sure youre working with a licensed firm, and you want to make sure youre utilizing an attorney.

You dont want to be giving money to anybody that says they can get you a loan modification, the only money you give is to an attorney, dont be giving money to people who come by and say they can help you out. Youre going to have to be very careful on how you handle that, but interestingly enough the loan modification is for the mortgage side, essentially the loan modification is to the loan officer what a short sale would be to a realtor.

Now the short sale part of real estate is not something you want to trust to somebody starting out doing short sales, unless they are being supervised by a pro, you dont want to mess around with it. This is not a time to be trying it out, this is not a time for people to be using you as their guinea pig, not a good idea at all.

That is why we brought Jeri and Kalyn in and were going to talk about some of the specifics. You definitely want to make sure that if you need to do a loan modification, if youre facing foreclosure or you want to do a short sale, whatever scenario is the better decision for you and your family, you have got to work with a professional, Jeri and Kalyn have extensive experience, they have an unbelievably great success rate.

It doesnt have to take six months to get this done they can execute this for you and they are the pros so were going to go through some questions over the next hour, there is just one more thing I want to talk about and that is if a loan modification is something you think you need call the office and we have put together a video for you that you can watch, its very short, it explains the process and we will then get together with you and answer any questions that you have… http://realestatemarketingthisweek.com

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Why you should use a licensed attorney to negotiate your loan modification

Dan Havey thanks for taking the time to be with us tonight. Thank you Michael for having me and you are absolutely right 2008 for many people was a very tough year. Tough year for pretty much everybody that I know, how many banks have we lost in 2008? Hopefully the bleeding is gone; hopefully there arent too many more banks to fail. Quite a few banks have picked up some of the slack, but the reality of it is so many people have been faced with such hardships, we have solutions that we are maybe going to talk about today that they can look forward to, to make 2009 a great year.

Definitely that is what we are doing here with your organization at Velocity Financial and with the Modification Hotline and with many of the other things I am working on right now to help people out. When I first got into this business it was back in the late 80s, I moved here from Wisconsin after getting a degree in finance and I started selling repos for Fannie Mae, Countrywide, and the RTC. The Resolution Trust Corporation was responsible for getting rid of all the real estate owned by the over 1,800 S&Ls that failed. So I cut my teeth selling those reposed properties and got to know a lot about the laws and worked with a lot of attorneys and then in the mid 90s I moved into the mortgage business, and I immediately started there working with bankruptcy attorneys for the most part.

I was helping people get out of their bankruptcies, chapter 13 bankruptcies, to avoid bankruptcies, to stop foreclosures and I did that up until the fall of 2007 and at that point the market really changed for me as we know most of the subprime financing went away. Some people might look at me and say, my god you gave people subprime loans, well if you are in a chapter 13 bankruptcy and your payment to the trustee is $1,500 a month and I can get you out of bankruptcy and reduce your total monthly outlay by $1,200, your mortgage payment would go up a little bit, I think this is a really good use of a subprime loan. And I certainly never had any complaints from anyone when I got them out of bankruptcy or I stopped their foreclosure and saved their home.

So late last year I moved out of the mortgage business for a while but I never really left it because it is pretty much what I have done my entire adult life. Over 20-25 years I have been involved with real estate, mortgages and finance and I worked for a while for about 6 months last year on a model for an idea that we came up with of being able to accurately predict the top and bottom of all real estate markets and we perfected it for Arizona and most of California. It worked really well to the point that we could actually predict the bottom of the market 6 months in advance and then after the bottoms hit all across the country we kind of stopped working on it.

It is one of the things I am going to start working on again over the next few months. The title of the book is Real Estates Future and you can go to my website at http://realestatesfuture.com and get a copy of that if you want to, it is not available yet but just put in your information and I am going to give away a whole bunch of free copies of it.

The reason why I went through this entire story is because a few months ago Michael and Velocity Financial came to me and said he was going to do loan modifications and I had been approached by other people and I had seen a bunch of garbage on the internet and the thing that he said to me that sold me was, You know Dan, you have to understand, were using attorneys to negotiate these loan modifications.

And that is, I didnt mean to interrupt but that is the key; that is one of the reasons it took us so long to get in. Even though Velocity Financial was at the very beginning of this mad craze, heck you cant drive down the street without seeing a sign that says loan mod, kind of like back in 2006 in the heyday of the mortgage business where you couldnt drive down the street and see a sign that said, if your mortgage payment is more than 1% you are paying too much. Well now everybody is jumping into the loan modification game and it is dangerous.

And that is exactly it, it is every unemployed loan officer has gotten into the loan modification game and I guess I am guilty of the exact same thing. It is just after having 20 years experience of working with attorneys, I know what they are capable of doing, I know how they can go in and negotiate and the biggest thing is they are there to protect the home owner, to protect the consumer, to protect their client because they have a fiduciary responsibility to that client…

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Avoid a foreclosure on your credit report, short sale your home and save your credit

Ok, so that is good to know, I know there are people who want to try and do that and I really dont know. I am really a full time mortgage professional, I didnt get into the loan modification business on purpose, we write mortgage loans, real estate loans for residential and commercial, so therefore I dont know your laws on the same token you dont do loan modifications and you dont write loans, youre professional realtor.

Exactly, and one more thing, bottom line is you cant be defrauding the bank. Because then youre stepping into mortgage fraud, as you know. You do have to have a hardship, you honestly do have to show, if youre going to be benefiting from staying in the home, you have to show a hardship that you cant afford the current payment. If youre making a couple hundred thousand a year and have a ½ million in the bank and owe $200,000 the bank isnt on your side in that case.

There are a lot of situations though when a homeowner wants to stay in their home, if that is the case, then we market it to investors, because there is a lot of the people who are buying these homes so we work with the investor and we work out the lease amount and the homeowners can stay in their homes in those situations. Whatever it looks like at the end of the day, the homeowner needs to picture where they are going to be in the short term midterm and long term and where this house fits into those plans, if a loan mod isnt right a short sale is a significantly better option than a foreclosure.

They need to call now, they need to take action because you do need to find a place to live and were here to help you, you dont want to get two weeks to the point of foreclosure and have no where to move your family. And the Dreamvestors Team that is your main focus right now, but people still call you for first time home buyers.

We work with buyers as well as people who are short selling. We have been in real estate several years and we didnt want just short sales, were fortunate to have a very strong clientele base and were always taking new clients. We have just adjusted our focus as the market called for it and as our clients called for it.

The other thing too when we talk about these short sales, getting out of that home before it goes to foreclosure is always the best case scenario, the bank is happier with it, the house is more saleable in most cases, people are still living there, its still there home, they still feel like the pride of ownership.

Yes, and in addition, pride of neighborhood is another point. Your neighbors are going to like you better because there is not a foreclosure in their neighborhood, it helps keep the prices up when the bank takes them back the banks price them even lower typically, well sure and then its vacant and we have the potential problem of neighborhood kids turning the house into a paintball arena.

I saw that in a fantastic two story home with an amazing backyard, this house was to die for, a million dollar home and the neighborhood kids turned this house into a paintball arena. Now I am not going to lie, that might have been fun when I was a kid, but this house was trashed, wires hanging out, I mean it was just an absolute mess. The lenders dont want that, you dont want that. They need to take action they need to call you.

Yes educate yourself and call someone today. Folks its important to point out today that I would like to see you call Kalyn and Jeri for this because I know, I have seen their track record. I know their close ratio and I know that they generally care about you and your needs first, but if you have someone who does this and youre contemplating it, if you have a sale date coming up, you need to take action. Move on with your life, put this part of your life behind you.

One of the things to and we dont want to get to deep into this, Jeri or Kalyn, but after the short sale is done its all said and done, you have an affiliation with people who can help them out in getting their credit repaired and ready to go. We do, we really pride ourselves on being a one stop shop, so we help educate them, if its going to be a loan modification or a short sale once they get through the process then we begin working with them on credit repair. We have a program that we work ourselves, and if its a really sticky issue with your credit we have people that we work very closely with that we will refer you to, we also have a team that includes a bankruptcy attorney, a real estate attorney and a real estate CPA…

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